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in south africa. this morning president obama, joined by first lady and former president george w. bush, laura bush, former secretary of state hillary clinton all left washington from andrews air force base on "air force one." president clinton and jimmy carter will be meeting them in south africa. president obama will be speaking at tomorrow's memorial service. nbc's ron allen live in soweto. ron, this is a gathering of the great, families, people of south africa all gathering. you have covered this so long. tell me about the emotions as people in south africa prepare? >>. >> reporter: it's an unbelievable atmosphere. we're across the street from the nelson mandela home, the home occupied from 1940s to 1990s. tomorrow is a day that will be unlike any other. there's more than 80 heads of state here. that will surpass the heads of state and world leaders who came to mourn and to say good-bye to pope john paul ii. largest gathering of heads of state outside of u.n. perhaps ever. we'll have to see how this day goes. and of course, there will be tens of thousands of people, perhaps millions
that president obama was in africa when there was a concern that maybe nelson mandela's health was failing him then and perhaps the president might visit. that didn't happen at the time, and now we get word that at age 95, nelson mandela has passed on. i expect to hear a significant amount of reaction from the united states to this news. >> we have gotten news that president obama will be making a statement at about 20 minutes past the hour. in that report you spoke about mandela, of nelson and the lack of rancor he had toward past enemies. that has not meant peaceful times though? >> no. but you can imagine what it would be like had nelson mandela not reached out that way after he left prison in 1990. it has been documented in films. a new film out documenting nelson mandela and the decisions he made, the action he he took and the message he delivered at that time. i will take myself back to my college days and a class i took happened to have a particular focus on south africa when i was in college. we had a visitor in class, and it was someone who had served on robin island with nelson mand
, but still the proud father of a new south africa. that meeting in washington was mr. obama's only opportunity to tell mandela in person how he inspired his own political activism. >> my very first political action, the first thing that i ever did that involved an issue or a policy or politics was a protest against apartheid and like so many around the globe, i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that nelson mandela set and so long as i live, i will do what i can to learn from him. >> during mr. obama's first trip to south africa as president in june of this year, serious consideration was given to a meeting with mandela at the hospital, but even then, he was far too frail and mr. obama huddled instead with the family inside this compound. then brought him to the prison. mr. obama referred to mandela by his south african name of endearment. madiba. >> madiba's words give us a compass in a sea of change. >> with mandela's passing, the president said others must now hold his moral compass. >> it falls to us as best we can to form the example that he set. to make deci
obama is expected to travel to south africa to attend the memorial service for mandela. at the united nations tonight, the security council paused for a moefl silence in mandela's honor. ? south africa, crowds of mourners have gathered to celebrate the life of the former president. robin is in south africa with the story of his incredible life. >> reporter: nelson mandela's struggle for freedom defined his life. he was born in the row motor hills of south africa's eastern cape. he was given the name which means troublemaker. he was only given the name nelson by a school teacher later on. after moving to johannesburg and studying law, mandela's trouble making politics began. and as a boxer he became adept at picking fights and sparring with the apartheid authorities which had increased its oppression against the black population. it was then that he made the crucial decision to take up an armed struggle, launching african national congress's armed wing. he was militant and a fire brand. definely burning his pass book. a dreaded document the authorities used against the black population
obama to come to south africa to pay their respects. what are you seeing and feeling there in anticipation of all of these world leaders coming there? >> well, there most certainly is the sense of appreciation and pride that a south african leader like nelson mandela put this country into the spotlight, and that his passing away is causing this attention, these global leaders to come into the country itself. there's also a sense amongst people that perhaps this celebration, this aura of celebration is going to morph into a much more somber atmosphere, especially as we get closer and during the days when he is actually being buried, the day when of course that memorial for him is going to be taking place. this has really been a moment for so many that we've been speaking to, to really feel that sense of pride in the country that's prided their country gave birth to an individual to such a hero and icon. >> we'll check back with you, arwa damon on the scene. still to come much more on the impact of nelson mandela and his leg pi. rick stengel of "time" magazine will be m
zuma announced the passing of nelson mandela to south africa and the world that president obama took to the briefing room to talk about his reminiscenses and everything that nelson mandela meant to him. some time in the evening, you are right. the president placed a phone call to jacob zuma. he expressed condolences from himself and michelle obama. he called nelson mandela a man of kindness and humility, influencing his own life, and the president only met nelson mandela one time as a senator. he had visited south africa twice, once as a senator and once this past june with his family, unable to meet the ailing nelson mandela at this point. the president took to the briefing room, talked about the inspiration that nelson mandela was for him, talked about the anecdote. nelson mandela and a struggle against apartheid, inspired president obama as a student in the late '70s, and early '80s, to become involved in politics for the first time. let's listen to what obama had to say. >> we will not see the likes of nelson mandela again. it falls to us as best we can for the example that we se
africa and united states president obama. one of the differences addressing directly your point. at what point we don't know, de klerk and his allies decided it was in their interest to make mandela's presidency successful for south africa. they didn't like it. they ran against him. but for the good of the nation, to have this great reconciliation, we need to make this work. i don't think that has happened with president obama. there are those that have said that no matter what, he can do whatever it is miraculous, we are determined to have his demise. and we don't care if the country itself is shut down, government, whatever. i think that's the big difference in the opposition they faced is the commitment to the country over your party's position. >> one lesson, i think, from mandela's example for president obama, for any leader, mandela never ceded the moral high ground. he always kept the moral high ground. and i believe that was in part his nature, and i believe that was in part a calculation that in the end, morality would work out. in the end the arc of history would bend toward mo
, president obama hoped to meet one last time with nelson mandela in june when he traveled to south africa. i was on that trip. mandela was in no condition to meet with the president. but he did visit robben island. and there, you see him in the tiny cell that nelson mandela spent 17 years of his years in imprisonment. i can tell you, george, that was quite a trip to africa for the first african-american president. but without question, the emotional highlight of that trip was when he stepped into that cell on robben island. >> and nelson mandela, barack obama, something in common. they're both the first black presidents of their countries. but president obama would bristle at comparisons. >> reporter: it was interesting. on that africa trip, president obama compared mandela to somebody else, to george washington, as the founder of south africa. and also in the sense that mandela stepped down from power voluntarily, just as george washington stepped down after two terms. mandela stepped down after only one. >> an important example to set. jon karl, thanks very much. >>> let's go to josh and t
or more. >>> right now president obama and the first lady en route to south africa for nelson mandela's memorial service scheduled for tomorrow. they left washington on "air force one" this morning along with former secretary of state hillary clinton and former president george w. bush and his wife laura. president bill clinton and jimmy carter traveling separately to the service. two lawmakers part of a delegation heading to the country, 22 house democrats as well as illinois republican and texas senator ted cruz. the memorial is expected to draw a who's who of leaders, david cameron, prince charles, afghanistan's hamid karzai and cuba's raul castro. joining me from south africa, nbc's ron allen. can you give me a sense of what it's like on the ground and the preparations that are under way. >> it's been an amazing few days since we've been here. in case you can't hear, it's raining, it's dark. there are still crowds out there chanting, choirs, is a mood of festivity, jubilation. also grief and mourning, but for the most part it's been a time of celebrating the life of nelson mandela
obama and the first lady will be going to south africa on tuesday. and former presidents jimmy carter and bill clinton will also be going to south africa this week. nelson mandela will be laid to rest this week. charlene hunter-gault who worked for npr during nelson mandela's presidency, and from new york, special correspondent tom brokaw. here is tom back in 1990 interviewing nelson mandela after he was released from prison. it's a great photo. the reverend jesse jackson is here, one of the first people to greet mandela after he was released from prison. what a great day that was. we'll talk about it. and he wrote a book entitled "mandela's way." and charles ogletree who marched for mandela's freedom and subsequently met with him several times. welcome to all of you. it's a great privilege to have this conversation. i want to begin in south africa with charlene hunter-gault and have her set the scene with this national period of mourning and reflection and celebration. good morning, charlene. >> reporter: right now, david, it is pouring down rain, and in south africa rain is a sign o
that president obama met mandela. he didn't, this last time he went to south africa, because he was so ill and he wanted to respect the feengs of the family and he didn't go to see him. but clearl you c tell how could it be any other way that obama was so incredibly and heavily influenced and inspired by the struggle of nelson mandela. >> fareed, your thoughts after hearing the president of the united states. >> one of the things, wolf, that president obama reminded us was that this was one of the great moral causes and political causes of the 1980s and '90s. you remember it well and we have forgotten now, but it was one of the great rallying causes on college campuses around the western world. it was even true in asia. it was a cause that really was global in a way that very few were, because it was such a sore, a cancer, on global society, the idea that you had this white minority regime treating african blacks almost like slaves and this extraordinary system of institutionalized serfdom that was apartheid. obama reminds us that he, like many, many people, spent some time protesting against it,
to learn from him there's one episode that the president had come back to, president obama, and that is when he finally was released from jail, in an event that ultimately vaulted him to be the leader of south africa, he did not seek revenge, he did not secret tri-bias, he embraced those that jailed him, to reconcile with those that jailed him, was an inspiration to him. let me ask you a question, do we know anything about the president's schedule, and whether we may be traveling to south africa? >> we do expect the president to travel to south africa for the funeral, the attribution on this is a little dicey, but we can say that is probably effective. >> leaders around the world are reacting to the death, and at there are plans for a great celebration funeral and david is here to talk about that, david? >> yeah, the official state -- is going to come on day nine, this is a ten decor yoking fewed that they have been working on for a long time, in fact, it started today. where his body was taken to an undisclosed mortuary, starting tomorrow, the government will place condole
gaoled him was a personal inspiration to him. we expect president obama to travel to south africa for the furniture. >> we'll hear more about this in the coming days. >> we have a special guest. joining us is the former deputy president of the south africa and serves as the u.n. undersecrety general and executive director of u.n. women. it is good to see you. >> good to see you. >> can you tell me what ofs it like to work in south africa, in the government. >> specifically under nelson mandela, it was - at a time when we had just gotten into government so everything was new for all of us. we were optimistic, highly motivated, and to work for someone like him, who worked around the clock, you felt that you had to be up and about doing your work, because that's what the boss is doing, and he was much older than you. you had no excuse to be tilered. >> you had so much hope, yet the changes that he faced and you faced as a government were enormous. reconciliation grew out of that. how did it happen. >> when he came out of prison. when he took the step to become the president of the co
this again because president obama is the president. see southke to africa, the blacks in south africa, they embrace reconciliation. this is what nelson mandela had nonviolent spirit we have a president here that is hated instead of love. nelson mandela he was loved. the only people that actually is --resident obama it president obama is black people and white people who are not racist. it was brutal what they did in south africa. the south africans and the united states african-americans went through the same thing. i hope someday the white people can come to reconciliations. this is the headline from the chicago tribune. a powerful voice of reconciliation. uniting a nation and captivating a world. if you're are just joining us or listening to us on c-span radio, we are getting your calls and reflections on the passing of nelson mandela. next is joe, new york, good morning. caller: it is amazing that a man could suffer so much and come out with so much good and so much charity in his heart. i salute him. i have to raise a question. ago, four to six months neil armstrong, the first man
brave leaders. obama (south africa this morning with his wife michelle. bushng him was george w. and his wife. former president bill clinton is traveling separately from rio de jimmyo. former president carter also plans to attend. president h w bush is the only former president not attending. he is no longer able to travel. upset with the president. they covered my mental health for the first few meetings i had. walking in the and a woman was among the press people. "no one ever covers my meetings." she said "it is just not a sexy issue." tour the country. we passed the mental health systems act of 1980. then as jimmy says, he was on build -- involuntarily retired from the white house. carter, lady rosalynn tonight at 9:00 eastern live on c-span and c-span3. also c-span radio and www.c- span.org. >> remarks now from israeli foreign minister avigdor lieberman. he comments on the current is really palestinian peace talks, the u.s. role in the process. the foreign minister was interviewed friday by washington post reporter david ignatius at a forum hosted by the brookings institution. this
. president obama, george w. bush and clinton will travel to south africa for memorial services. >> we go to our correspondent at the soweto church where services wrapped up. what is significant about this church? these are some of the church members in the church listening to the service. this building was a lot of things to many people. up therefore on the painting on the wall is the painting of a great activist. we have nelson mandela, and archbishop desmond tutu. during apartheid students running from the police used to come in and hide. there were occasions that police would come in and shoot them, and several have died in this building. it's an emotional time, an historical place. it shows how far the country has come. >> you mentioned people cowering in the church. what are religious leaders saying today about madeba's passing. >> the message is simple. it was think about the good things and learn from him. one thing was be a good person. the police were saying for example, share a meal with a friend. sit, chat, talk about nelson mandela, talk about the moments that you loved abou
. bush and his wife laura, have accepted an invitation to accompany president obama to south africa. the spokesman for the first president bush says he will not be able attend because of his distance and his age. bill clinton and his family will be going to south africa. i talk to president clinton today about his immense administration. i want you to listen to what he said about you the day after that tour of robben island back in 1998. >> the president is one of the most decent men i have come across, and he has got a thick skin, strong nerves. he is not the type of person who squeals, and hi knows that i hold him in the highest regards, because even before he was president, he was very generous in assisting us to ensure we were victorious. >> he said in that interview with me, you're not a person who squeals. when you hear that now from him, what goes through your mind? >> that he helped me to be that kind of man, that he inspired me before i knew him, and that after we became friends, every minute we spent together, even when we were having the occasional argument from our posit
of the decades of momentous change he did so much to bring about. south africa comes to terms with the death of the father of their brain that nation. the well known zone with them. us president barack obama has paid homage to one of his peers at a special address at the white house. for now. let us pause and give thanks for the fact that nelson mandela left the man who took history this dance. and that the arco more universe. for justice for his journey from a prisoner. well president embodied the promise that human beings and countries can change for the better god blesses memory. and keep him in peace. he led a secretary general banking maine is also a paid his respects freedom still working. i'm falling he said them. by the passing of this in montana. this in mind that i was a triumph for justice and the tone for the human experience. daniel rode along route one which he introduced by his is set for his stubborn for human dignity keep the twenty two and freedom to touch all blacks around the well of the net with hamas in order to honor the life of nelson mandela and then he touched the w
leaders of our time. for thet obama called flags to fly at half staff in his honor. he led africa out of the dark days of the apartheid, but his legacy involves so much more. we have a look back at his life. such a sad day today. >> this was greatly expected but universally dreaded. an close toold had death several times over the past year and some 20 doctors have been tending to him night and day. this hardly lessened the painful news that came this afternoon. >> there is the deepest kind of morning. lowered flags as a sympathetic sign not just for the man, but for the understanding that his presence will not be easily replaced. >> nelson mandela's name is synonymous with the entire he showsovement and the greater goal that this achieved. challenge their very humanity. >> born in a tiny village and educated in a hut, he became a boxer though his fight would be in a larger realm. andained a law degree fought racism and the apartheid. he was landed behind bars for 27 years. his imprisonment only energized him. >> think about the problems. >> countless others along the way. >> we have t
back in june throughout africa and south africa that president barack obama was on. you could see him halting and pausing as he talked about the legacy. i think it's important to note that he spoke a lot about what you've been discussing and highlighting what is important, nelson mandela's push for reconciliation for those that imprisoned him. president barack obama says one thing he talks about ask how man dell laugh was stubborn about pushing forward not just dealing through the 27 years of imprison ment. after he got out, to continue to fight for the cause of freedom. he continued to push forward. that's a legacy for many people. >> it is. one of his quotes to that end. he said, do not judge me by my successes. judge me by how many times i fell down and got back up again. >> you heard the president talk about nelson mandela saying also that he wasn't a saint. he considered himself rather a sinner trying to become a saint, trying to continue to push forward the cause of justice and freedom. trying to stress. that was one of the reasons he was so beloved around the world is that he
africa. leaders from at least a dozen countries will be here, united states president obama, as well as two former presidents, presidents clinton and bush as well as their wives will be in attendance with many other american dignitaries. they will be joined by the leaders of at least a dozen other countries, and more are continuing to join. >> madiba, this guy was the greatest, we'll never see someone like him again. >> reporter: on sunday, thousands packed places of worship in pretoria and soweto, different creeds and colors honoring a special man. >> today was a special mass for madiba. he said peace and we must hold that peace so that where is he, he'll be very pleased. >> reporter: tears and cheers capturing the loss and love for tata or father, as south africans called mandela. the makeshift memorials outside mandela's johannesburg home continue to grow but the greatest memorial may be the faces, black and white together. parents bring children who will live a life madiba helped make possible. >> they were born free, they were born in the free south africa so they'll experience
of a truly united south africa. a peaceful and prosperous africa. and a better world. we will always love madiba. may his soul rest in peace. god bless africa. >> that was south africa'spresi. this evening at the white house, president obama expressed his condolences to nelson mandela's family and praised the transformative leader. >> at his trial in 1964, nelsonm the dock saying, i have fought against white domination, and i have fought against black domination. i have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. it is an ideal which i hope to live for, and to achieve. but if need's be, it is an ideal for which i am prepared to die. nelson mandela lived for that ideal and he made it real. to achieve more than could be expected of any man. and today he's gone home and we've lost one of the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. through his fierce dignity and unbending welfare sacrif
. >> thank you so much. that report from soweto in south africa. >> president obama called nelson mandela's wife to express condolences. the president and first lady will go to sav yes. obama meant nelson mandela in 2005. former presidents clinton and bush will also attend next week. >> 21 women were convicted of taking part in a protest supporting former president mohamed morsi's reinstatement in july. 14 were handed 11-year gaol terms. the minors were sentenced to juvenile detention. supporters of the government and their sentences were handed down in the same week as a restricted new protest law. bernard smith is in cairo for the latest. >> do the young women stand a chance of winning an appeal? >> good morning. the appeal hearings have finished in cairo. the judge have gone into recess, there are two separate courts. seven of those are classed as girls, two as young as 15. in the other court the other 14 women aged between 17 and 18. as you say. hands down hefty sentences, 11 years for being involvement in a protest. some were passing at the time. the intrim president. such was the ba
. president obama met nelson mandela in 2005 and will travel to south africa to attend memorial services. he'll be joined by former presidents bill clinton and george bush. >> 2013 is poised to be the best year for hire since 2005, before the recession. year low and is at 7%.l to a of the u.s. economy gained more jobs than it expected, adding 203,000 positions just last month. the gains were low spread in low and high-earning positions. mike viqueira has more from the white house. >> new unemployment figures are good news for the white house, they've been waiting for this for some time, and whether it matters economically or to many people, millions out of work and those what have given up looking for work. it's good news for the barack obama administration. with unemployment insurance to expire for 1.3 million if condepress doesn't act by the end. month, the white house is stuck in an ironic situation. they are arguing for an end to the cut if growth improves, gdp, in the last court, and down to 7% on friday, the lowest in five years. the administration says unemployment insurance has to be
of mr. mandela's health. remind the viewers of what president obama did when he went to south africa several months ago? >> well, again, i wasn't on that trip, but there was oncern, some talk even then. nelson mandela was in failing health at that time. that perhaps his visit to south africa could coincide with nelson mandela, his illness. he didn't go visit directly with nelson mandela at the time. their two lives, given their places in history, have intersected somewhat. we are waiting to hear what president obama says about nelson man tele. would not be surprised to have him appear on camera to discuss his legacy not only in south africa, but in the united states. there is a new movie out now about nelson mandela and his journey from an activist at the african national congress, to his imprisonment, his release and his rise to lead south africa, the incredible rise to lead south africa. no word exactly on what the president can say or when real hear something from president obama. i would think it would be in the not too distance future. not long ago the president himself was in a
mandela. president obama and three former presidents are headed so south africa today for tuesday's memorial service. >> colder temperatures reaching the east coast, making football games on sunday almost impossible to see and to play. good morning and welcome to august make. i'm del walters. that storm causing pile ups in several states, accidents on the pennsylvania turn pike sunday involved almost 60 vehicles. amateur video shows the long line of cars halted by a crash near redding, pennsylvania. we have been tracking the storm all day now. what's the latest? >> we still have a lot of messy weather, almost much of the wintery weather has switched over to rain, so that is the good news. it is certainly continuing to cause problems across the area, taking a toll over much of the country. if you booked a flight, call ahead before heading to the and i want. >> the arctic blast now entering its second week is causing misery across the country. staying warm is not easy when there is ice, snow and temperatures as low as 20 degrees in some areas. >> i have got on wool socks and on two
and the impact that mandela had on the young barack obama when he was a student. he was roently in south africa and unable to see former president mandela because he was so ill, but i thought what i expected him to say. he was a young man in his formative years and very much affected by nelson mandela and i was pleased to hear the tribute he paid and i'm hoping that the world will feel in much the same way even it they didn't have the experience that president obama of and would not be able to articulate it. there lessons that we mead to continue to learn from nelson mandela and maybe that passing will bring the lessons that so many of your guests have said today. >> guided by hopes and not fear is how the president describes nelson mandela and said he drew tremendous inspiration from mandela. reaction to his death is coming in from world leaders. david cameron and prime minister ofbritain, a great light has gone out. jimmy carter said passion and freedom and justice created new hope for generations of oppressed people worldwide. former president george h.w. bush said he was a man of tremendous
. president obama is likely to travel to south africa. released a bush statement. -- next, palm beach, florida. he was a great man. he reminds me of a man like bothh, a great man for black-and-white. i pray he rest in peace. should learn from him. to take example. host: new york is next. caller: good evening. i just want to express my condolences on behalf of members of my community in new york about the death of nelson mandela. [indiscernible] we really miss him. there has not been any african that has done the things that has.n mandela i want to express my heartfelt condolences to the people of at the death of this at the thomas history -- epitome of history. very large personality. there has not been anybody that has achieved what he has done. none of them. nelson mandela is somebody that for thousands of years nobody will forget. host: we have shown you a number of events over the years. you will find in our video library at c-span.org. his death announced late this afternoon. by southh african time african president jacob zuma. his activism affirms the ability of men and women around the
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. >> terry, walk us through what will happen the rest of the week there in south africa. >> reporter: well, tuesday is the big day, george. that is when president obama and the other presidents and potentates and princes will come here to south africa. join 90,000 south africans here in the fnb stadium. that is the last place the public saw nelson mandela at the 2010 world cup. he was there. he'll be there in spirit as the country says its farewell to him. there will be three days for his body to lie in state so people can come pay a personal tribute to him. on sunday, he'll be flown about 700 miles home to qunu where he'll be laid to rest in his ancestral village. his history with the united at states. he had a deep impact on our politics before setting foot on our soil. here's jonathan karl with more. on how mandela prodded, consoles, scolded, and inspired american presidents. >> reporter: nelson mandela loomed large in america long before he was freed from prison. ♪ it was 25 years ♪ that take that man away >> reporter: inspiring a mass movement against racism and intolerance. >> ap
's exactly right. i was a student at stanford when i heard the movement about divestment from south africa in 1972. in 1971, barack obama was only ten years old so he was very young and never able to appreciate that. what i want to make clear, though, we shouldn't call him militant, we shouldn't call him a terrorist, he's a patriot. he's just like the patriots fighting here many, many centuries ago for equality. and that's what he was. he was a patriot who tried to make sure that his country where he was born, where he controlled would recognize the fact that the majority of people who were african were suppressed by the minority of people who were white, and that has to be changed. he is a patriot who did a great deal in his 27 years in prison and did a great deal as president and continues to have that legacy as a patriot. i am a south african. i am an african, as he said when he got his honorary degree from harvard in 1998. that became a watershed moment of him recognizing who he was, what he was and who he's speaking for. >> but to all of you here in new york, it wasn't just that perso
the georgetown. and president obama came to see him. so it is a lifetime of inspiration, there are obvious parallels. of course, his father from the continent of africa, them son mandela, the president being the first african-american president, it's almost too obvious to point out the deep rest nantz there. between these two men. and obviously someone that president obama looked up to a great deal. >> mike, appreciate that, thank you. >> joining us now he is a professor from ucla.'s goo, one of the real joys of this moment, is going to be had a personal association. with nelson mandela if you want to take a look with the former south african president. >> well, i have known about nelson mandela since i started studying and he had always been promptly inspirational. i met him for the first time after he had been released from prison. for all of that time in the 70's and 80's he was in prison. i was struck particularly by 1 point that president obama just made. he did indeed take action with the demonstration about apartheid. i think it was in 1981. many people have had a different time fro
, nelson mandela will be laid to rest in south africa on december 15th. president and mrs. obama will be there to pay their respects. fox's ed henry just wrapped up an interview with bill clinton be who shared his memories of the leader. >> he talked to me in that prison cell as we grabbed the bars and looked out together about what it was like. and i said tell me how this changed you. how did you give up 27 of the best years of your life and come out a better man than you went? he said, i realized they could take everything from me except my mind and my heart. those things i would have to give them. he decided not to give them away. he was free before he was released. >> tributes have been pouring in over the last 24 hours. >> we've lost one of the most influential courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with us on this earth. >> extremely sad and traj ek news. we're just reminded what an extraordinarily inspiring man nelson mandela was and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his family now. >> a new low, low, low, loss of pain. he accompl
. and all people of africa. thank you very much.. thank you. president obama will likely travel to south africa for the funeral of south africa president nelson mandela, according to the white house. nelson mandela died thursday. he was 95. coming up on c-span2, a hearing on higher education affordability. then senate judiciary committee chairman talks about human rights. and later an update on veterans disability claims. >>> a house panel investigation cost of higher education and the use of pell grants. we'll hear from student financial aid and higher education officials. this education and work force training subcommittee hearing is two hours. [inaudible conversations] the subcommittee will come to order. good morning. thank you for joining us for our hearing on pell grant program. we have an excellent panel of witnesses here this morning. we look toward to their testimony. this hearing is the 11th in the series designed to gain a more complete understanding of the challenges facing post secondary students and institutions. the hearings held to inform the committee of policy changes t
could do our part to seek the world as it should be. when president obama visited south africa this summer, mandela was so ill, the two were unable to meet. still mandela's inspiration played large during the president's trip. president obama returned to robbin island, but this time he brought his entire family. >> there was something different about bringing my children. and malia is now 15. sasha is 12, and seeing them stand within the walls that once surrounded nelson mandela, i knew this was an experience that they would never forget. i knew that they now appreciated a little bit more the sacrifices that madiba and others had made for freedom. >> reporter: soon off the leader's death was announced, obama said he could not imagine his life without mandela's example. >> we've lost one of the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. >> reporter: president obama repeating the words there that were said of abraham lincoln after he passed away. and chris and
touch. he was only allowed two letters a year from his family. >> president obama and his family toured robben island during their first visit to south africa in june into word of any son mandela's death spread quickly around the world and the united states, of course. for many americans his death was like losing one of his own. >> president obama met the leader in 2005 and he and the first lady visited south africa in june but they were unable to meet with mandela due to his failing health. the president paid tribute to the falling icon counting himself among the millions influenced by mandela. >> the day he was released from prison gave me a sense of what human beings can do when they're guided by their hopes and not by their fears. and like so many around the globe, i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that will nelson mandela set. >> want to bring in andrew young, civil rights leader and former ambassador to the united nations. welcome, as well as james joseph, former u.s. ambassador to south africa and duke university professor, both of who new mandela very well o
mandela's death, i will point you to those remarks. all i can say is that president obama and the first lady will go to south africa next week to pay their respects to the memory of nelson mandela and participate in memorial events. at this point, i don't have more information on logistics. that is all being worked out. in terms of others, i refer you to them at this time. we hope to have it fairly quickly. >> will the president invite them to travel? >> i don't want to get ahead of the process being worked on as far as the timing and logistics. when we have that information, we will get it for you right away. >> jobs numbers, white house officials have told us that the sequester would have dire consequences. those numbers are a welcome surprise for you guys. is some of the austerity not having the effect that you predicted? >> i would not look to what we said and predicted, but what i've it economists have said about the effect of the sequester on job creation and the shutdown on jobs and economic growth. talk about trying to prove a negative or a counterfactual, but the economists say
. students including a young barack obama called for the universities to end investments in south africa. free nelson mandela was a popular cry and pressure grew for sanctions. it was not just jesse helmings who had staged a filibuster to block a martin luther king holiday and blocked sanctions against south africa, president ronald reagan was against sanctions against south africa opening up a split in the gop. after the government crack said down on anti-apartheid protests in reagan's first term will killing more than 2,000 blacks and imprisoning thousands, they had a party of constructionive engagement. >> this is a sovereign nation. you ka can't tell them how to run their country. >> after may passed sanctions, reagan vetoed the bill in september. >> i think the simple case is that punitive sanctions that would affect the economy there would not only be disruptive to surrounding states that are linked to south africa's economy and be punitive to the people that we want to help. i think that up on the hill there whatever intentions there may be, they are asking for something that woul
and the african -- throughout south africa and the african continent has only begun. president obama has now said that he has gotten old and leaving the seat. the truth is he has gotten married and he feels young and he is tired of his response test of his public responsibilities and he wants to go into a broader life. [applause] those of us who share his vision and lift him up in honor today owe it to him to build a permanent partnership between , for the and africans education of our children, for the solution of our problems, for the resolution of our differences, for the elevation of what is best about us all. that is what we owe to nelson and her to amy beal family, and to all of those who have sacrificed. for those 10,000 long days and the shiny example sent the clear understanding that a man who has given up so much of his life can give us that even more important than the sacrificed yesterday is what you are doing with today and what you will do with tomorrow. for that is the thing that always humbles me when i am with nelson mandela, the sense of serenity and peace and engagement in the
seek in ourselves. >> south africa's president announcing the death a short time later, president obama paid a deeply personal tribute. >> we've lost one of the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed south africa and moved all of us. his journey from a prisoner to a president embodied the promise that human beings and countries can change for the better. his commitment to transfer power and reconcile with those who jailed him set an example that all humanity should aspire to, whether in the lives of nations or our own personal lives. the day he was released from prison gave me a sense of what human beings can do when they are guided by hopes and not fears. and like so many around the globe, i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that nelson mandela set. >> throughout the hour tonight and in our 10:00 hour tonight we'll talk to peopl
... will power us all... into the future. ♪ >>> the obamas leave for south africa to join 50 world leaders to pay tribute to nelson mandela. george bush and his wife will join them aboard air force one. bill clinton and jimmy carter are set to attend as well. it's a big test for africa's government as they plan the memorial. 94,000 people are expected at fnb stadium home to the world cup final in 2010. 100,000 more expected in the area at overflow sports centers while many details were worked out well in advance politico reporting the last minute logistics for the secret service are daunting. the president's security won't have control over access and there are concerns on everything from the motorcade route to his safety once inside. meanwhile, sunday marked an official day of prayer across south africa but in church the scene was as remember celebratory as it was mournful. and a week after the deadly commuter train wreck in new york, officials are upgrading signals on the curve where the crash occurred. new signals are expected to be up and running this morning. four people were killed last sun
. mr. obama said of mandela what was said of another great emancipator, abraham lincoln: "he belongs to the ages." mandela's legacy, the president said, is a free south africa at peace with itself, an example to the world. for cbs news, i'm scott pelley. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, [ female announcer ] for those who love sweets your season is here. let's just call it the baking time of year. you need special ingredients. you need the staples for homemade. you need safeway sugar for just a buck eighty-eight. and that magic thing that makes everyone want another only two ninety-nine and when hands get messy, quite surely they'll say, yum! wow! yay! what a sweeter holiday. safeway. ingredients for life.
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